Episode 141 - Decapitated by a Pardus CD

[Fab]

What proper nerd actual clicks on windows buttons anyway? I always do that stuff from the keyboard (and I always replace metacity with openbox in Gnome, so I guess it's a bit of a moot point for me).

So.... since when is Ubuntu a "proper nerd" distro?

True, true . . . what I really meant, is why the outlaw community cares so much . . . since the forums seem to be about 95% nerd.

Because we know people that fall within Ubuntu's "target audience" and have to support their computers?

[Fab]

You were speculating about the name used in one of your emails - "Ebcdic". EBCDIC is the character set used on IBM mainframes (instead of ASCII or Unicode).

Is it?

[Fab]

The Ubuntu UK Podcast has an interview with the person (Ivanka Majic) responsible for moving the window buttons in Ubuntu to the left side. She doesn't really explain the decision, but appears that she wasn't really used to working with the open source community and hadn't anticipated this sort of reaction. That lack of experience in working with the community is probably part of the reason why the change was communicated poorly. She's an industrial designer and comes from a product design background.

I haven't finished listening to that yet, I found it positive that she identified the communication issue, though. Although that's really Jono's job, from what I understand...

Ivanka Majic might be a good person to interview some time to talk about user interface design in Linux (but as a general discussion, rather than about Ubuntu in particular). This is something that a lot of free software programs could use improvement on, so it's good that someone is trying to do something about it.

Probably not, since they just interviewed her. I'd rather talk to Mo Duffy again. What I prefer about the Fedora art team is the fact that they actively seek feedback *before* pushing stuff on the community and they also seem a lot better at "dogfooding", ie. all the Fedora art from the art team is created on 100% Free Software.

[Fab]

ISomeone like Oracle or SAP might want them

Oh my god! It would be better for all of us then if we just blow the whole company HQ to hell...

[Fab]

I can't however think of anyone who would want the Mono division. "Enterprise" customers seem to all want Java, and I can't think of anyone else who would have any reason to continue to pour money into Mono like Novell has. So, I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the Mono division simply shut down and the programmers there all let go. I don't know if the Mono project could survive on just volunteer part time "community" programmers, but if it does then they would probably have to curb their ambitions quite a bit and concentrate on much narrower goals.

Mono makes a lot more money for them then SuSE AFAIK.

[FiftyOneFifty]

Hey! My ignition key is on the left of the steering wheel

So is the ignition key on my 1950 Chrysler. Now if it only had an engine

[windigo]

damn windigo, looks like we'll have to cancel the private learjet we chartered to Liverpool! i guess we are flying coach on our own
dime.

seriously though, someone got a hold of your credit card, fab! and they are from upstate NY! i wonder what town it is... maybe its close. windigo and i will track the bastard down. we'll bring you his ears! a proper outlaw posse.

LOL. If it happens again, I'll call ya. Maybe you can lean on 'em. Make 'em an offah they can't reduse...

Hell yeah - I'm right in the middle of upstate NY, and most of the towns up here are small - easy to find somebody in. If you can pass on the town, we might be able to round up some suspects!

[jezra]

Hey! My ignition key is on the left of the steering wheel

So is the ignition key on my 1950 Chrysler. Now if it only had an engine

I would think a 318 would be fairly easy to find. Those things are everywhere.

Since we are talking about cars, there is a Pontiac Bonneville stretch limo station wagon for sale by my friends house. 8 doors and 4 bench seats. $5000 and it is yours.

[FiftyOneFifty]

>>I would think a 318 would be fairly easy to find. Those things are everywhere.
Yes, a few are in my shop, both Poly's and LA's. I can squeeze in a 440, just haven't been able to squeeze in the time.

>>Since we are talking about cars, there is a Pontiac Bonneville stretch limo station wagon for sale by my friends house. 8 doors and 4 bench seats. $5000 and it is yours.
A neighbor has one just like it he loads up and takes to Royals games. I always drive Mopars, though there is a forward control Jeep up for auction at the end of the month. I learned to drive on one.

[Rod C. Johnson]

Dan and Fab were going on about the Shot of Quack.... oops Jaq podcast. I was thinking maybe a bunch of us ought to mosey on over to their forums and show 'em a thing or three about derailing.