Episode 90 - Salami-ROM

[Fab]

This week: Dan quotes Connery, Google gets sued over Android name, adopt a line of Miro code, Firefox Plugin Wars, the USAF buys XP and Dan interviews Christina Haralanova about her studies on women in open source.

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[mynameis]

Connery quotes YAY!!

[jezra]

Connery quotes YAY!!

let me fix that for you....
Connery quotes YESH!

[tacone]

A good hint for discriminated women in the open source. Choose a sex-neutral nick and never say your sex. Does everyone still treat you as a noob ? FAIL.

No need to join women groups or scream at discrimination. Don't say you're a woman, do worthy contributions and let your code talk for itself.

[lostnbronx]

A good hint for discriminated women in the open source. Choose a sex-neutral nick and never say your sex. Does everyone still treat you as a noob ? FAIL.

No need to join women groups or scream at discrimination. Don't say you're a woman, do worthy contributions and let your code talk for itself.

Yeah, yeah, they should hide themselves. Stay in the closet. How dare they have a vagina?

Kinda crap is that, man? C'mon...

[tacone]

It's not matter of hiding your own vagina, just to make your product talk for itself. There are so many things I did that have gathered no consideration at all, that would have been quite tempting to scream at discrimination if I were at woman.

There's a woman on the Ubuntu planet that wrote along the same lines, she doesn't say she's a woman every other minute and lets her work to talk for herself.

There is a handful of very high level women chess players. They are outnumbered by men in their skill-category. Is this discrimination ? (access to the tournaments is based on previous competition results). Lack of cleverness maybe ?
Lack of interest in chess, I say.

Girls can do the same thing boys can. Let them, no need to bring up the stereotype thing every 2 seconds. Girls can code, but I don't know any good girl coder. That's not discrimination, that's lack of study. They prefer other things.

Distributed teams on open source projects, even the aesthetic barriers fall. Still it's not enough.

I can script myself, but I'll never be a C hacker. Is that because I'm a girl ?

[Treybuchet]

I can script myself, but I'll never be a C hacker. Is that because I'm a girl ?

YES.

Actually, I generally ignore people's sexes, and concentrate on what they actually contribute.

Not ZOMG A GURL ON THE INTERNET CODING.
More like "Oh, that's decent content. I respect this percent for not being a douche."

[anagraph]

With regard to The Pirate Google: does Google host torrent trackers? I think not, and that is an important difference.

[SndChaser]

As for the breathalyzers -- one of my favorite clips: http://failblog.org/2009/05/05/breathalyzer-fail-2/.

George

[jezra]

With regard to The Pirate Google: does Google host torrent trackers? I think not, and that is an important difference.

Google hosts a web site that allows one to search for media, that may or may not be copyrighted, and displays a link to the material. Google doesn't actually host the material.

Now take the previous two sentences and replace "Google" with "The Pirate Bay".

I can script myself, but I'll never be a C hacker. Is that because I'm a girl ?

YES.

Actually, I generally ignore people's sexes, and concentrate on what they actually contribute.

Not ZOMG A GURL ON THE INTERNET CODING.
More like "Oh, that's decent content. I respect this percent for not being a douche."

Aside from content, I also like to see participation in the community.
Everyone, and I do mean everyone, has something to give back to the community. It could be code, or documentation, or graphics, or a tutorial, or a blog post about the user experience, or music, or sounds, or simply a new perspective of the community from someone elses eyes. The problem seems to be that there is a fear of being viewed as a 'newbie' or in some way being not welcome to the community.