Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Dan on 22 Oct 2008, 13:23

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Plasticman wrote:Initial thought is Jono shouldn't try and do any melodic singing.


Funny. My girlfriend said exactly the same thing.


+1 sorry Jono, he's better when he's grunting for me than trying to sing melodic bits. I finally listened to the album and it's not quite my style, I prefer old school thrash (there are some thrash moments) but it's well made and I know loads of people will love it. If you're into this brand of metal then it's a good example. We'll be talking to Jono about all this 2moro, I have some questions already.

"Take The Test" is the best track for me but there's 2 or 3 I like a lot even if it isn't my style, that has to be a good sign for :ugeek: I'd say
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Black Mage on 22 Oct 2008, 16:34

dono what you all complain about. jono's grawling is awsome and his clean is unique enough to sound good.
i liked his clean "Edge of Design"
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Plasticman on 22 Oct 2008, 19:38

Black Mage wrote:dono what you all complain about. jono's grawling is awsome and his clean is unique enough to sound good.
i liked his clean "Edge of Design"


Complain is the wrong word to use there i think for what were getting at ;)

Pretty much everyone has said good things regarding the album and provided encouragement. Constructive feedback is not complaining.
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby NYbill on 22 Oct 2008, 20:50

i can't say metal is my thing. but, i'm interested to see what he came up with. guess i'll give it a listen.

{edit} just gave it a listen. wow! that voice comes out of that skinny dude! :shock:
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Fab on 23 Oct 2008, 16:07

NYbill wrote:{edit} just gave it a listen. wow! that voice comes out of that skinny dude! :shock:


Yah. I was kinda suprised as well... :D
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby timttmy on 24 Oct 2008, 22:07

Edge of Design has been playing on my rockbox on repeat most of the day, I really like the guitars and the clean vocals.
As for the guy who does the grunting, he should get the boot. ;)
I hope jono has had vocal coaching as he's going to damage himself if he hasn't.
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby NYbill on 24 Oct 2008, 22:45

timttmy wrote:Edge of Design has been playing on my rockbox on repeat most of the day, I really like the guitars and the clean vocals.
As for the guy who does the grunting, he should get the boot. ;)
I hope jono has had vocal coaching as he's going to damage himself if he hasn't.


i thought i recalled jono mention that he did all the parts of the album in one of the final lug radios. so, i figured all the singing was him.

maybe there are credits? [checking] yea, its on the back cover. its all him.
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Dan on 24 Oct 2008, 23:06

NYbill wrote:
timttmy wrote:Edge of Design has been playing on my rockbox on repeat most of the day, I really like the guitars and the clean vocals.
As for the guy who does the grunting, he should get the boot. ;)
I hope jono has had vocal coaching as he's going to damage himself if he hasn't.


i thought i recalled jono mention that he did all the parts of the album in one of the final lug radios. so, i figured all the singing was him.

maybe there are credits? [checking] yea, its on the back cover. its all him.


It is all him, I can definitely confirm that 100%, heard it right from the horse's mouth so to speak. I work in a similar way myself when recording, play all the instruments and stuff, you just can't find the staff these days :D
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby lostnbronx on 25 Oct 2008, 00:25

"Edge of Design" is a good track. I'm not a metal fan (not this style, anyway), but the Missez is, and she liked what she heard, so she's downloading the .ogg version of the album right now.

I'm actually impressed with Jono's work, but I'm a little on the fence about the mastering. Dan, what's your take on the production work of that track? Jono's melodic part could have been tightened up a bit, if I'm not wrong (which I probably am, but whatever). It just doesn't sound like a final mix to me and my tin ear.
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Re: Severed Fifth: Denied By Reign

Postby Dan on 25 Oct 2008, 01:19

lostnbronx wrote:"Edge of Design" is a good track. I'm not a metal fan (not this style, anyway), but the Missez is, and she liked what she heard, so she's downloading the .ogg version of the album right now.

I'm actually impressed with Jono's work, but I'm a little on the fence about the mastering. Dan, what's your take on the production work of that track? Jono's melodic part could have been tightened up a bit, if I'm not wrong (which I probably am, but whatever). It just doesn't sound like a final mix to me and my tin ear.


I'd have to listen to the track again to really appraise the mix but it sounded ok to me on first listen I think. Incidentally I got the chance to ask Jono if he got my email about mastering and he said it never arrived but he thinks his spam filter has been playing up, he's lost other mails apparently. I think the mastering sounds pretty good, he said a friend from his old band did it for him. Don't confuse mixing and mastering though, the mixing (ie the idividual instrument levels) is part of Jono's production work, mastering comes after the stereo mix normally. It's the process of optimising the sound with compression, eg and other tools for the best sound on the widest range of speakers and systems. It's often treated as something of a black art in the music business and you can pay a fortune to a mastering engineer but I don't think it's that hard to do. Especially these days with the cheapness of computers.
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